tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post372968509648315941..comments2016-06-02T02:58:48.501-07:00Comments on The Harvard Fatwa: The Harvard FatwaKalavai Venkathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04122139537795014574noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-88546424659998236072011-12-15T16:10:00.455-08:002011-12-15T16:10:00.455-08:00"VERITAS" MY ASS!
http://www.bloggersba..."VERITAS" MY ASS!<br /><br />http://www.bloggersbase.com/politics-and-opinions/harvard-campaigns-tenure-in-support-of-islam/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-68374976192617152422011-12-14T15:53:55.844-08:002011-12-14T15:53:55.844-08:00Dear Venkat,
What I mean is that the US govt. doe...Dear Venkat,<br /><br />What I mean is that the US govt. does not directly fund the "church" for its operations. I use quotes because there is no such thing as the American church (like the Church of England). <br /><br />Tax breaks do not amount to a direct funding. <br /><br />Faith-based initiatives are a recent phenomenon started by Bush as an executive order, and not part of the US constitution. They allow religious organizations to compete for funds to disseminate social service (essentially like a contract). FBO's constitutionality was challenged although the conservative majority of the Supreme court allowed it to stand. FBOs explicitly bar proselytizing and are supposed to be neutral to religion. One might argue that for practical purposes it is a funding of Christian churches because the vast majority of recipients are Christian churches. However, other religious entities also receive funding. And several secular and non-Christian representatives are included on the advisory council for FBOs (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Office_of_Faith-Based_and_Neighborhood_Partnerships)<br /><br />My larger point is that someone can challenge the point you are making that the American government funds Christian churches, and dismiss your entire article, which I think is otherwise brilliant, and beautifully written.VVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06908383319373214935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-70095515630501573772011-12-14T07:13:23.412-08:002011-12-14T07:13:23.412-08:00Dear VV,
American government indeed funds the chu...Dear VV,<br /><br />American government indeed funds the church extensively. This funding comes in three forms:<br /><br />- Tax breaks: which is taxpayer money given the church.<br /><br />- Faith-based initiatives: where the church is funded extensively so that they can take control of the distribution of education, healthcare etc., thereby leading to proselytizing of those that receive those services.<br /><br />- Funding of NGO: This is a massive scheme where the church receives billions of $ to target poor societies for conversion. <br /><br />Some good references on this dangerous trend are:<br /><br />http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_its-time-the-government-shut-the-foreign-funds-tap-for-ngos_1241042 .<br /><br />Malhotra, Rajiv and Neelakandan, Aravindan: Breaking India - Western Interventions in Dravidian and Dalit Faultlines.Kalavai Venkathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04122139537795014574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-87786523948924052722011-12-13T22:56:26.442-08:002011-12-13T22:56:26.442-08:00Great job on the article and speaks truth to power...Great job on the article and speaks truth to power. One minor quibble: I don't think the American government funds Christian churches. Please verifyVVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06908383319373214935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-28910997720242992952011-12-13T21:14:49.940-08:002011-12-13T21:14:49.940-08:00Swamy indeed enjoys freedom of expression
So, shou...Swamy indeed enjoys freedom of expression<br />So, should those who oppose his views<br />Harvard has a freedom to decide what courses to continue or discontinue<br />Who are we to object ?JRPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288486097565899924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-8683491416030916592011-12-13T20:46:24.071-08:002011-12-13T20:46:24.071-08:00excellent article!!excellent article!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02415422216435722404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-43279035139355025352011-12-13T12:42:20.076-08:002011-12-13T12:42:20.076-08:00Syed Ghulam Nabi Fai, the ethnic Pakistani Norther...Syed Ghulam Nabi Fai, the ethnic Pakistani Northern Virginia man accused of overseeing a front group for the Pakistani intelligence services -- and using political contributions to lobby Congress for two decades -- pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges Wednesday, of having received millions of $ from ISI/Pak Govt., and used it for anti-Indian lobbying throughout the World, with bases in different Countries, under directions of ISI. Paradoxically, the bliions of $ the US Govt. gives as aid, finds its way to many anti-US activities like Fai's Kashmir front.<br /><br />It might be remembered that ISI head Hamid Gul was present at CIA<br />Hqtrs. when 9/11 was happening giving running commentary to his boss Musharraf of the entire episode. Even CIA and FBI was penetrated effectively by ISI.<br /><br />The fact that Dr.Bose with ISI connections through her Paki husband reveals the depth of tentacles of ISI even in Harvard, considered to be the pinnacle of academic activties and a temple for education. The more so, since Dr.Bose of the History Dept. succeeded in influencing her Superiors and the top officials to cause damage to the reputaion of Dr.Swamy, a visiting Professor of the University since 16 years, for an article published in another Country, India, a sad and dangerous precedent created.<br /><br />Adopting the same standards, several academecians of U.S. could be meted out with similar action for publishing articles denigrating other faiths or regions and a pandora's box could be opened!!Sachshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08544045107731497539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-52708479644764219322011-12-13T11:32:51.692-08:002011-12-13T11:32:51.692-08:00Brother Kalavai Venkat,
Next 7 generations of you...Brother Kalavai Venkat,<br /><br />Next 7 generations of yours are now officially barred from applying to Harvard! Which is actually blessing in disguise that helps us stop serving a nation which treats us as 'property' rather than an 'asset'...It's about time we rekindle the desire to re-build our ancient knowledge powerhouses such as Nalanda and Takshshila Universities which can replace these mismanaged and hollow Western institutions. These Western schools selling the ideas of success/fame/riches/progress are NOT real temples of Goddess Saraswati (Goddess of learning) with devotees(read students) anyway. NO Western school teaches or preaches value system which was/is at the core of our traditional Hindu education system before it was systematically attacked by foreign powers.Deshdaazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13072694845029489289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-73858146626608109892011-12-13T10:06:03.270-08:002011-12-13T10:06:03.270-08:00Fantastic article Kalavai Venkat !
The questions ...Fantastic article Kalavai Venkat !<br /><br />The questions are, <br /><br />"is swamy the first faculty of an educational institute to be thrown out for speaking against terrorism?"<br /><br /> "What will happen to any other professor or lecturer who has all the facts and data that would prove the reality of terrorism ?"<br /><br />.சுழியம்https://www.blogger.com/profile/00031682394520814538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-36096345864178737512011-12-13T09:53:53.905-08:002011-12-13T09:53:53.905-08:00The so called diana eck is a stooge of... I will l...The so called diana eck is a stooge of... I will leave it to the readers.<br /><br />While I cant afford the money and time to call up the number one of the commenters, I wish to convey that this is the fall of Harvard as a diversity and reduction to a 'University'. I will Thank every God that I have reaffirmed the decision to not to send my sons to the University which has taken to Unipolar vision (probably christian Theology). Refer to "The heathen in his blindness" by Prof. Balu.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />RajagopalRajagopalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13625383920125722545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-79463364165044164282011-12-13T09:39:48.328-08:002011-12-13T09:39:48.328-08:00The Harward fatwa led by Diana Eck's bigotry i...The Harward fatwa led by Diana Eck's bigotry is symbolic of what is ailing with this world. Eck being the cornerstone of the faculty of "divinity", or so it looks when she is leading the charge against Dr. Swamy, spurred on by the guardians of a useless pseudo-science called theology and divinity. A silly attempt by these half-wits to demolish whatever that remained credible at Harward to be regarded as a temple of learning. The "divinity" professors are all gnawing into Hindu thought like cyberspace cannibals in word and deed, all the while pretending to be guardians of a religion missed by their “book”. These “divinities” know what the sages said better than the Hindus themselves. Now we all saw Diana Eck’s fangs, spitting the same poison of intolerance. But there are lot more of fangs out there that need dismantling. Though the “divinity” professors might earn a pension, it is a faculty that will be banished to the dark side of the moon in the near future. Looking on the bright side of life, I think it was a good turn for us and for Dr. Swamy who would be able to spend more time in India and go after the in-house culprits.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04203768959357670457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-38456883126364289852011-12-13T08:12:06.737-08:002011-12-13T08:12:06.737-08:00i have just protested at no.0016174951502, thanks ...i have just protested at no.0016174951502, thanks for providing telephone number.last best buddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13375224446507077063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-55862947462033251762011-12-13T06:33:08.235-08:002011-12-13T06:33:08.235-08:00Exposes the Appeasement side of the so-called Mode...Exposes the Appeasement side of the so-called Modern Liberal Progressive institution called Harvard. Pledging support to Swamy ji in his noble endeavours!!!Deepakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14994972210016082704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-16011941842408745122011-12-13T05:33:27.210-08:002011-12-13T05:33:27.210-08:00Very well written article. Keep it up mate.Very well written article. Keep it up mate.Ashwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12776293508815838386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-23527542601285802412011-12-13T02:59:27.296-08:002011-12-13T02:59:27.296-08:00That was amazing.That was amazing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-87007185321538224022011-12-13T01:40:56.170-08:002011-12-13T01:40:56.170-08:00AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME..... Great... I like peopl...AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME..... Great... I like people who can express them freely. You done a great jobidiosyncratic_thoughtshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02336410668982405923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-44306681830882473582011-12-13T01:39:18.066-08:002011-12-13T01:39:18.066-08:00Blazing throughout and rightfully too. Excellent ...Blazing throughout and rightfully too. Excellent narrative expressed in candid clarity with a terrific and apt title **The Harvard Fatwa**. No other words can substitute this any better. Great work Mate!!!<br /><br />With your advance permission, will share the link on Twitter.prashhanthkpphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02813673452332214491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-77062236056336732812011-12-13T01:30:57.691-08:002011-12-13T01:30:57.691-08:00Excellent write up.. i particularly echoed your p...Excellent write up.. i particularly echoed your point, on irrational comparison of white american supremacy with swamy's hindu ancestry argument.. Its plain stupid on the part of harvard to have taken this baseless argument as reason for removing swamy's course.<br /><br />Its good that you made this stupidity naked enough with your clear writingInquiring Mindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08207256660208904320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-73560910674283766752011-12-13T01:21:51.028-08:002011-12-13T01:21:51.028-08:00Dear Venkat,
Two words.. "Awesome Rebuttal&...Dear Venkat,<br /> Two words.. "Awesome Rebuttal". <br /><br />I thoroughly enjoyed your quality response, exposing the weak grounds on which Diana Eck, Sugata Bose and others are standing in opposing Subramanian Swamy's free speech. <br /><br />I said shame on Harvard, and you went a step further comparing them to Fatwa and Mullahs! LoL..<br /><br />You might also want to read my response at Harvard Crimson website, which incidentally is the second best rated comment by readers of that shameful announcement that Swamy's courses are taken away.<br /><br />http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/12/7/faculty-final-meeting/#comment-381359059<br /><br />What I find amusing is that Harvard keeps folks like :<br /><br />a)Sugata Bose whose book has "secular" prefix for terror group JKLF's Yasin Malik, <br /><br />b) Michael Witzel whose sacking is demanded by nearly 3500 signatures in this petition - http://www.petitiononline.com/stopIER/petition.html <br /><br />c) Alan Dershowitz, who called for bulldozing buildings!<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Dershowitz#.22New_Response_to_Palestinian_Terrorism.22_.282002.29<br /><br />d) And this Diana Eck, who is spearheading Swamy's course removal, who herself praises a blatantly anti-Hindu painter MF Hussain!<br />https://twitter.com/#!/DianaEck/status/79013667668115456 - So a guy who ran away from Indian law, escaping nearly 1000 cases against him for his portrayal of Mother India in nude, is being admired by Diana!<br /><br />Sheer hypocrisy on the part of Harvard which is tarnishing its own image to an irreparable extent by selectively acting against Swamy, while keeping others mentioned above. Hope students of Harvard, who stand for free speech, can at least take this message to the faculty and help save the image of this historic institution.<br /><br />- KiranKiran KShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11410963824919626970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-52103395263383368372011-12-13T01:05:43.417-08:002011-12-13T01:05:43.417-08:00Antonio Maino through different channels made huge...Antonio Maino through different channels made huge donations to Harward when Rahul Gandhi was studying there. Many of those leftist idiots are on her payroll now.Dhanashri Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02678415839077943950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-41294180332654711782011-12-12T23:53:11.700-08:002011-12-12T23:53:11.700-08:00Superb writing, i agree with your views....Superb writing, i agree with your views....Rajeshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12963146522799468030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-17217557481467302162011-12-12T23:49:29.406-08:002011-12-12T23:49:29.406-08:00FIRE, a civil liberties group with a focus on acad...FIRE, a civil liberties group with a focus on academia, cautioned in its letter to Faust that the group is “concerned about the threat to freedom of expression” that may come about from that attention.<br /><br />PLEASE KEEP THEM UPDATED ABOUT ARTICLES ON THIS BLOG FOR SUPPORT<br /><br />http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/7/29/fire-letter-subramanian-swamy-summer-school/Sachshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08544045107731497539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-40077436900984745562011-12-12T23:44:52.854-08:002011-12-12T23:44:52.854-08:00Please make a post on how to complain against Harv...Please make a post on how to complain against Harvard's bigotry:<br /><br /><br />(a) TELEPHONE CALL<br />(very effective)<br />Call up Harvard University's President and complain, and ask her to reinstate Dr. Swamy's courses.<br />Dr. Drew Faust, President<br />Telephone Number: +1 617-495-1502<br /><br />(b) FAX<br />(significantly effective)<br />Compose a protest and demand letter<br />Dr. Drew Faust, President<br />Harvard University<br />Office of the President<br />Massachusetts Hall<br />Cambridge, MA 02138<br />Fax Number: +1 617-495-8550<br /><br />(c) POSTAL MAIL<br />(medium effective)<br />Send the protest/demand letter in postal mail. See (b) for further details.<br /><br />(d) E-MAIL<br />( ineffective as such protest e-mails go to the bit bucket )<br />Send E-mail protest<br />E-Mail: president@harvard.eduSachshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08544045107731497539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-813144352398588611.post-82590164013530054332011-12-12T23:39:21.432-08:002011-12-12T23:39:21.432-08:00Very well researched and well written article. Goo...Very well researched and well written article. Good job. This was needed.Praveshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475756106658835379noreply@blogger.com